Who do we seek to persuade? Climate change and right-wing populism – @JanB_QLD

Jan Bowman

Jan Bowman

Citizen journalist at No Fibs
Jan lives in the Brisbane suburb of West End. She covered the Griffith electorate for No Fibs as a new citizen journalist during the September 2013 federal election and reprised that role for the 2014 Griffith by-election. Jan provides occasional updates on Griffith and stories on Brisbane and West End that capture her interest. Her stories also occasionally appear in The Westender. From 2014 to 2016, in part thanks to the opportunities provided by No Fibs, she took taken up a role as Community Correspondent for the West End with ABC Radio 612 in Brisbane.
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Jan Bowman

“We need to stop doing these things that aren’t working.

They’re not just not working; they’re creating a problem now.”

The success of Pauline Hanson’s One Nation was the story of the 2016 Federal Election and its implications have occupied commentators, journalists, community and family members, over the past six month. It has been fascinating to observe the evolution of this commentary from denunciation to something much more nuanced.

Not long after the election Margo Kingston published an opinion piece in The Guardian arguing that it is time to engage with Hanson’s voters and not to ridicule them as had been done in the past.

Kingston was roundly criticised for her approach.

Columnist Helen Razor, for example, was scathing.

Hanson is irredeemable. Her supporters are irredeemable. Forget them, even if many of them may have had a lifetime of being forgotten,” Razor wrote in the Daily Review.

Intellectually I was inclined to agree with Kingston, she made sense – ridiculing people will only harden hearts. But on an emotional level I was with Razor. I wanted to rage. I was angry.

And then came Trump.

On US election night I invited a couple of friends, one from the US, to gather at my home for the expected celebratory drinks: our mood soon soured. We went from disbelief, to anger and then to a sort of grief in the course of just a few hours. And we argued. How did this happen? Who are these people that voted for Trump? Are they forgotten people, or are they racist misogynists? Was the John Stewart style of satire helpful or damaging? What could we have done differently? What should we do now?

These conversations continued for us over the following weeks. There seemed to be a general acceptance (at least within my social media bubble) that Margo Kingston was right, but the practical application appeared to be missing.

How do we start these conversations, and with whom exactly, when Trump and Hanson’s voters seem to come with such a missed bag of grievances, from anti-vaxxers and climate change sceptics, to farmers rejecting coal seam gas drilling on their land, and those who are affected by the downturn in mining?

Winnifred Louis

In the context of exploring these questions, I came across a short piece in the UQ News by social psychologist, Dr Winnifred Louis. Dr Louis seemed to be offering the practical application we were looking for.

So my climate change activist mate Mark and I headed across the river from West End to the University of Queensland to talk with Dr Louis who generously squeezed us in between teaching duties and meetings.

Focussing mostly on climate change activism, we asked if she has any insights into what went wrong, what works, what doesn’t, and what we, and the groups we support, need to do now?

Winnifred Louis’ told us that her first experience of activism was as a Canadian teenager campaigning for a feminist cause, and is was a positive one: the campaign for legislative change was a success. She continued her activism but found that the reasons for the successes or the failures of campaigns are not always clear to their participants.

In her academic career, Dr Louis became interested in what leads people to get off the sidewalk into the streets, how they choose their tactics, and most importantly, how they evaluate the success of their efforts.

My activism has changed my research as well over a 20-year arc. I have gone from a conviction that activism can change the world, to a realisation that sometimes it can be part of a backlash. It can not only fail to work, it can be counter-productive. That sometimes we can alienate the people that we thought we were trying to persuade.”

Dr Louis says she has been trying to change the way she communicates her research so that campaigners will think more about these issues too.

The rise of right-wing populism

Dr Louis believes that the rise of right-wing populism in Australia, the US and Europe, (and its counterpart in militant Islam), is a revolt against the failure of the political class, and of community activists.

Part of the dynamic of the election of these highly radical parties, is that people want to send a message of rejection to a political class and to the community activists and organisers that are part of that political class, about how they are failing to listen and respond to their concerns”, she told us.

Stigmatising, shaming and othering

Dr Louis says she is not proposing that those on The Left are responsible for Pauline Hanson. Hanson, she says, is her own person, “… she bears the responsibility for what she says. But we can ask the question, “Is there anything that progressives are doing, for example, to communicate a message about anti-racism, which is actually consolidating people’s racist views?”

Answering her own question, Dr Louis, says, “And I think the answer to that is, “Yes, Yes”, there are some tactics that people are using of stigmatising, shaming and othering, which are actually not just, not productive, not just failing to work, they are actually increasing the problem they are nominally addressing”.

Dr Louis speculates that when those sympathetic to Hanson or Trump receive messages from those on The Left, their likely response is, “You have no respect for the concerns that led me to vote for One Nation. You are attributing my opposition to Muslim immigration to racism, and you are reducing me to a racist bigot, and you know what, unsurprisingly, I don’t feel persuaded to listen to you.”

And ultimately, what is our goal?”, Dr Louis asks, “Is our goal to achieve a moment of moral superiority, and moral condemnation, or is it to open dialogue where some of these voters might shift away from One Nation and back to some of the non-racist political parties?”

Angry public ranting, Dr Louis says, may be good for your mental health, but diagnosing a whole community as morally degenerate she says, is deeply ineffective.

There’s still a lot on the table

For campaigners on Climate Change, the successes of Hanson and Trump is deeply concerning.

For the last 15 years there’s been a sense of urgency – for the last five years there’s been a sense of despairing urgency – and now people are watching us shift towards these precipices, and we seem to be stepping backwards – so really there’s despair – there’s fury,” Dr Louis says.

But, she adds, “…people have to address their own grief and anger; they have to work through it together in groups – the sadness, the despair, the anger – because some things are too late already – we’ve already seen the habitat destruction here in Australia, the climate change here in Australia. But we also know that there’s still a lot that’s on the table.”

Dr Louis says that as activists reflect on their approaches to campaigning, they can consider a number of things: who they seek to persuade, which messages are most persuasive, and what methods of engagement will be most effective.

Who should we seek to persuade?

Traditional campaigns that just attack your opponents, Dr Louis says, will energise your own side, but they are not persuasive to swing voters. They can also energise your political opponents to counter-mobilise.

The speech that you might give to you own supporters, to people who already agree with you, can productively be full of anger and moral judgement, because everyone’s united around this, and they are energised by this, and it leads them to donate, to volunteer, to do good things.”

But, Dr Louis says, we fail to identify our audience and their interests, “… because the extremists on each side are looking at each other.” 

We are looking at the leaders, Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts, and hearing their rhetoric and being outraged by what they’re saying. But that’s not why many of the swing voters chose them.”

The target audience, Dr Louis says, is not the extremists or those who have already thrown in their lot with a right-wing party, it is those groups that are seriously tossing up, “…should I vote for One Nation, or should I vote for the LNP, should I vote for One Nation, or should I vote Labor, should I vote for One Nation, should I vote for Bob Katter?” What is it she asks, that those people are weighing up in the balance of the decision? “Those are the issues that need to be salient.”

Dr Louis also considers that how campaigners frame their messages is critical.

Rather than stressing the problem, Dr Louis says, we need to focus on the positive future that we’re all moving towards.

Activists are often motivated by a sense of urgency, the hugeness of a problem, but most people are not like that – the target audience is not like that. The people engaging in a problem behaviour, they’re not like that, and if you tell them that the behaviour is really common or that Australians more than any country in the world waste energy, that will not be effective in increasing intentions to conserve energy. If you tell people that, they will waste more energy – it’s disturbing but true.”

Dr Louis says it is common for community groups, and even governments, to begin a persuasive message by highlighting the scale of the problem. But, she says, “you need to prioritise the positive change that we’re working towards, rather than communicating the negative problem in the present.”

If I say to you, “Australians, they waste a lot of energy”, if you are not part of the activist group, you say, “Yeah, sure do”. So what you’ve just done is normalise the problem behaviour. It’s not only ineffective; it’s counterproductive.”

“… Again, people fail to consistently demonstrate that they can persuade and mobilise conservatives – that’s because it’s hard. When was the last time a conservative persuaded you of something on the environment? What are the chances that you could be persuaded that there are too many forests in Australia or that we’ve put too much ‘green tape’ around land development? Really low. So we need to understand that it’s difficult, then we really need to invest the resources into discovering if it works, and we need to stop doing these things that aren’t working. They’re not just not working; they’re creating a problem now.”

“If you take one step towards the Greens, they take a step back.”

The next phase of movement growth, Dr Louis says, requires some of the centre groups to take ownership of the ideas and principles about protecting the environment. “It has to be bipartisan, and if it’s not bipartisan, then we’re vulnerable to a backlash which could see not only failure to develop new environmental initiatives, but people walking away from the commitments they already have…”

So failure is not just failure to advance, failure is a step backwards. If we cannot master intergroup conflict and group processes: in other words, if we can’t all become a little bit social-psychological, we will not be able to master the next step, and it has to be done relatively quickly,” Dr Louis said.

But rather than seeking to work with moderate conservatives, Dr Louis suggests that there is a tendency for environmentalists to judge harshly what they perceive to be half-measures by moderates and conservatives.

“In the environmental movement a lot of people really believe that if we see an incremental step towards change, we have to harshly denounce it, because it’s not good enough. That that is our duty. I think that a lot of environmentalists, in particular, are aware that for us to achieve climate change slowing or stopping, we need more than these half measures. So that’s the level of fury that they’re bringing to this. But the problem is, that reflects a lack of awareness of the nature of politics.”

If you harshly condemn half measures. If you try to use half measures as a way of wedging and destroying moderates, then that will not actually lead to foster change, that will actually provoke them to move away from you,” Dr Louis argues.

“That’s the context in which I was talking with a right wing politician about The Greens, and he said to me, “If you take one step towards the Greens, they take a step back.” “

If we can’t see past this dynamic, then we will not be able to manage the next phase of movement growth.”

Dr Louis also says that if activists are trying to mobilise people around environmental issues alone, they will fail.

She said that she was struck by the fact that at the end of Campbell Newman’s era as Queensland Premier, and following his rollbacks of significant environmental policies, The Green’s vote only moved up from 8 to 9 percent.

So all those bad things energised an additional 1% at most – it could just have been an error – noise. So if we’re talking about trying to mobilise people around environmental issues alone, there seems to be some sort of threshold at that level.”

Do we have a campaign that’s targeting swing voters?

The framing of the conversation, Dr Louis says, is critical.

Dr Louis says that shifting towards One Nation on policies that are morally reprehensible, is something that all left-wing people should oppose. However, she says, “I think we should ask ourselves, “Are there questions of the effects of capitalism and trade that in fact, we have in common?”

Connecting with people on devastating environmental threats will have zero impact, she says, and so we have to find the issues through which you can make a connection. “Are we going to talk about how huge international corporations are wreaking environmental devastation and devastating local farmers, and then leaving with their money, or will Pauline Hanson say that?”

The idea that there’s an unarticulated reality that the left-wing is ignoring is the easiest thing to fix – because that’s often true – so let’s just say, “I heard you. I understand, and I also believe that these things are happening, that your control is being threatened.””

Dr Louis says that Donald Trump’s message of free-trade was one of the major reasons for his success in the so-called rust belt, “And I think as we look at the end of the mining boom in Queensland this is a major factor in the dissatisfaction that voters have with both Queensland parties. So shifting towards them on racism doesn’t actually address what I think is the more important reason why One Nation voters in North Queensland are mobilising.”

So she asks, “Is there any possibility to create a mobilisation around those issues which are consistent with our values and that would actually connect with some of these voters? I think that’s a more positive way forward.”

The right message from the right person

Having thought about the target audience, and the message itself, Dr Louis says campaigners also need to think about who is best to convey those messages. Members of known Green groups, she suggests, can’t make an environmental case necessarily, “… because people can immediately see what you’re up to, and again the shutters go up.”

So my question is, ok, here’s my next group, here’s the people next to me that I’m trying to persuade. Who do they listen to? Who do they trust? And, can I connect with someone that connects with them? Could I ask doctors to talk about the health issues that are relevant to environmental change, cos that’s going to affect people who don’t care about my animals or my issues? Could I ask economists and insurers to talk about financial issues and instability in the system or infrastructure and climate change?”

And it’s not just about making the case in terms of the values and concerns of the target audience Dr Louis argues, it’s also about giving the message to someone that can be trusted by them.

Trusted Messengers

Dr Louis says that when it comes to environmental messages, the most persuasive messengers in the last five years in Australia have been farmers.

“They’re the ones that have the legitimacy to connect with the target audiences and to mobilise right-wing voters, and they’re disproportionately important. So just applying that principle to everything …to all the campaigns, are we the right person? Does it have to have our name on it?”

“… farmers understand soil degradation – so there’s a real connection if we can draw on it, and those people have leverage, that we totally do not have,” Dr Louis says.

“And then we need to discover if there’s anything that people are doing that’s working, and I think that some of those campaigns with farmers highlight that there are campaigns that have been working – changing swing voters, mobilising new people. And then we need to invest energy in that.”

Finally, Dr Louis says, coalition politics involves recognising that you may never get others to care about what you care about, but you may get them to support, or adopt, under a bipartisan strategy, other principles that will achieve the same outcomes.

In Dr Louis’ home country of Canada, after more than a decade of conservative rule, voters moved firmly to the Left. Dr Louis said this success was partially a backlash against the conservatives, but that importantly, the Liberals under Justin Trudeau, “..had an economic vision, a social vision, and an environmental vision that brought together a big enough group to get power.”

Dr Louis asks what it will take in Australia to persuade enough of the population to move forward on climate change. It’s not going to be because they care about endangered parrots, she told us, “…but it’s going to be something – so can we articulate that as quickly as possible?”

You can listen to an edited audio of the conversation with Dr Louis on SoundCloud.

More from Winnifred Louis:

Talking about Environmental Science to Conservatives

Changing the world: why it fails and what works. | Winnifred Louis | TEDxUQ

 


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Comments

  1. Well, the majority of Australians are persuaded on climate change – and marriage equality too.

    A good book on organising social movements, thankfully by an Australian, is Les Robinson’s Changeology.

  2. A fresh and well argued call for reanalysis of strategies and tactics used in relation to two of the most urgent and interlinked issues of our time.

  3. Colin Broadfoot says:

    Refreshing views on environmental activism, giving pause for thought as we strive for understanding and good outcomes

  4. Jan this is a fabulous piece, thank you. I’m about to launch an educational group program for women with a spiritual perspective who feel 2016 has left them questioning their beliefs and effectiveness. Your article had a surprising and very welcome cross-over to my work.

    I had an argument last week with someone who supports Hanson. He accused ‘all you lefties’ of being too idealistic and avoiding reality. He spends time in Europe and has seen the refugee problems first hand in France and Germany. As I saw it, he was looking at the worst of things and extrapolating the evidence to even more devestation. I was accepting those terrible truths but not allowing them to completely define the reality. It seemed to me that he was terribly scared and couldn’t understand why I was more upbeat, allowing some of the good things into our frame.

    So I was intrigued by how persuasive ‘expert’ opinions of doctors and farmers could mitigate against the lefty-loony framing. I think perhaps it helps people feel someone is in charge, in control. Real people, people they recognise as being effective, are ‘on the job’. Great insight.